Added: Dec 5, 2008
From: SLCThunk
Duration: 3:19
1) I support the Gay Community 100% in its civil rights battles.2) I don't hate gays3) I support Gay MarriageBut from the way I see it, it's basically a disease in that it comes with personal hardships and limitations on the choice of reproduction. So basically I'd put it in the same league as say, erectile dysfunction or something like that. I'm sorry if some of you are offended or get the wrong idea, I'm not saying that it is a disease because there is something wrong with gay people, I'm saying it's a disease because gay people (often, though not always) end up with hardships because of it.
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SLCThunk Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - It is objective in that it is genetic. Sure you can't see it but of course that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, or that it depends on how you see it...it's written into their DNA (I think).
Robin1238321 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - I totally agree, just like an ugly nose or an other feature in an otherwise perfectly working body is. That's why I said below, that it's just a variation on an interesting theme. Defenitely not a disease!!!
rollsrose2 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Haha, you say it's a disease because it has some indesirable characteristics. There are a lot of people with undesirable characteristics, but I wouldn't say they have a disease. And you say one of those is that 'they have no way to conceive children if desired'; well obviously they can, as some people commented before. If you mean that they can't conceive together, well, I desire a kid from Brad Pitt, but that ain't gonna happen either. And you say it's a disease because it's genetic
rollsrose2 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - And you say it's a disease because it's genetic. That's even a more stupid argument. So many traits are genetic and so many diseases are not; what about bacteria, viruses etc. You're just making this silly video, while you even don't know what you're talkin about.
SLCThunk Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - If Brad Pitt rejects you and says it's because of your genes I would be surprised. It would probably be because you have no manners.I would call erectile dysfunction a disease, at the very least. That's kind of like gayness in that you can't have kids if you want them.
SLCThunk Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - "a disordered ...system of the body resulting from the effect of genetic or developmental errors,...or unfavorable environmental factors; illness; sickness; ailment."I think I know what I'm talking about, I mean, I'm not sure I'm really just asking a question, but you being a bitch isn't really going to change anything anyways.
rollsrose2 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - And still you don't want to acknowledge the fact, that gays have a perfectly functioning body and you compare it with an erectile dysfunction, which is obviously not a proper functioning body."a disordered ...system of the body resulting from the effect of genetic or developmental errors,..." Well now, it ain't right, you're kinda avoiding this, that's either plain stupid or. I would never say to my gay friends that they have a disease, and there are plenty also from science pov that you sh'nt
rollsrose2 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - plenty reasons
Ryantineocons Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Diseases are foreign entities like bacteria or viruses that enter the body. Genes are gentic variations. Being left handed is not a disease its part of genetic variation. Diseases by definition can't be the same as genetic differences.Being gay is not always genetic. Look at jails or cultures with extremely high gay populations. It can be psychological.
rollsrose2 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - I'm afraid I can't agree that genetic abberations leading to disease are variations, but I totally agree with the fact that 'homosexuality' IS a genetic variation, for several reasons. And that the reasons for naming it a disease as mentioned in the video are total BS, because the bodies of homosexual people are functioning perfect and he doesn't know what to answer to that, but keeps repeating "a disordered..system of the body etc." Well obviously the body isn't disordered.
fflybz Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - If homosexuality is a disease, then so is heterosexuality.
Clemburke1111 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Nature has provied something population control device and it is called Homosexuality, When the population becomes to large Homosexuality increases.Please pick up some Science books.
VEGGIELANTE Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - As with your commentary on middle-eastern affairs, you discuss complex issues without adequate education in the field, resorting to simplistic generalizations spoken with blind conviction. I have studied sexual orientation in university about a decade ago, and I don't think research has produced much more progress since. The debate over whether orientation is the result of genetics, prenatal environment or social influences, or any combination thereof has not been resolved yet.
VEGGIELANTE Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - (continued) Even if you can prove the cause of homosexuality is genetic, why classify is as a disease? homosexuals fought long and hard to declassify their orientation by psychiatry as a medical problem. You may not consciously hate gays, but your suggestion shows prejudice. That's like saying that left handed people are diseased because they can't play normal guitars. Genetic variation is not necessarily a disease. Sometimes its just a healthy variation that makes the world more interesting.
SLCThunk Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - I realize the analysis isn't very strong, I was just putting an idea out there.That is a good point about left-handedness.
Ryantineocons Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - I think the "disorder " part would be that it goes against pro-creation which is why we have sex organs. I don't think its a disorder. And its not a disease based on on definition. I don't think it is always genetic. I lived with gay people for 4 years. there are plenty of psychological gay people.
PoliticalCanuck Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - WTF??? dude, im laughing so hard right now, holy shit..you're fuckin stupid!THAT MADE NO SENSE! GO SPEAK ABOUT RACISM, THE U.S GOVERNMENT, AND WHITE MIDDLE-CLASS MEN WHO RAPE CHILDREN...and...you might be gay too...and if you are its ok
SLCThunk Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - I know it's okay. But I'm not :) It's funny when people try to throw that at people who they perceive as enemies of the gay community, when really they are just insulting the gay community. I know you disagree with this video, so we can assume you insinuated that I might be gay as an insult (even though you throw in that it's "okay")...well then who, may I ask, are you insulting?Either way for a guy who hates stupidity you didn't really give me an answer like everyone else so fuck off.
Espero26 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - im gay and actually i used to like girls... but i just noticed that guys are hotter and u cant help who u fall in love with .. boys or girls.. delete this video u GEEEK and get a haircut do you think anyone wants to know what you think? im not even lisenin. im just givin u a bitch cas of the title of your video.
SLCThunk Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Well when you ask so nicely like that.Go fuck yourself man. And not because you're gay, because you're an asshole.
EsamAhmed02 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Espero26 you probably had your ribs removed so you can go give yourself bj's 10 times day by watching this guy and the way he presents himself. He fuckin chooses the way he wants to dress. We came here to fucken comment on the topic that he is discussing not on the way he looks you faggot!Oh yeah it's that time again for your daily bj just to remind you.
pinkblack179 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Then so is heterosexuality.It is "sexuality" itself. lol. bit ridiculous.It shouldn't be harder for them to adopt 'cause they're gay.Please don't say that has anything to do with them having a "disease".That's unfairness.You say you're 100% FOR gay rights, so you should understand that :-)
pinkblack179 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - CONTINUED (pt 2):"anything undesirable that is genetic is a disease"No, sorry. My nose is large, genetic, and undesirebale, but it's not a disease, thank you very much."end up with hardships because of it"But they SHOULDN'T. That is my point.It IS wrong to call this a disease, because it isn't an ugly, undesireable thing. It's NOT cancer. It's disrespectful to compare the two.
pinkblack179 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - CONTINUED (pt 3):And if we have, truly, equality in the world, one should not be able to pick out one sexual orientation over the other and call it a "disease", and the other one "normal".A reply would be appreciated :-)
Robin1238321 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Well now sorry for that then :(Beauty is subjective to a certain level, in people who go beyond that level, beauty is defenitely not subjective...Gayness isn't that objective at all; can you point out all gays on the street? Thereby, some people know it for themselves, when they are 6, but some also in their 20ies or even later. It isn't all that simple. You're just shouting something, but a little thinking would be really wise (I don't know how to say this not ad hominem, sorry).